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	Comments on: Basel III and the strengthening of capital requirement: the obstinacy in mistake or why &#8220;IT&#8221; will happen again	</title>
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		By: Bernard Vallageas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard Vallageas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 19:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-12&quot;&gt;Norbert&lt;/a&gt;.

In my paper I said there is some capital to finance a vault and a shop. Of course bank&#039;s creditors can seize the vault and the shop but that is a very small warranty. Now you said capital could be much higher and there vould contitute a true warranty. That could be right from a microeconomic point of view ((I mean for the relations between a peculiar bank and its creditors), but as I show in the second part of my paper that would entail macroeconomic disorders, namely a bad financial situation for the firms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-12">Norbert</a>.</p>
<p>In my paper I said there is some capital to finance a vault and a shop. Of course bank&#8217;s creditors can seize the vault and the shop but that is a very small warranty. Now you said capital could be much higher and there vould contitute a true warranty. That could be right from a microeconomic point of view ((I mean for the relations between a peculiar bank and its creditors), but as I show in the second part of my paper that would entail macroeconomic disorders, namely a bad financial situation for the firms.</p>
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		By: Bernard Vallageas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernard Vallageas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-11&quot;&gt;Norbert&lt;/a&gt;.

Certainly I have wrongly exprimed my thought. When I write that banks (the public agencies for monetary creation) are obliged to finance all marketable projects, I want to say that there are other judges of the &quot;marketability&quot; of the project that its iniataors. I agree that these other judges are difficult to define and that &quot;marketability&quot; include a lot of anticipations and subjectivity, but that I want to say is that it would be the only criterium, while in the present system a banker may say to an entrepreneur &quot;you project is very interesting, i.e. marketable, but I have no money to finance it&quot; (because I have a too small part of the global quantity of money predefined)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-11">Norbert</a>.</p>
<p>Certainly I have wrongly exprimed my thought. When I write that banks (the public agencies for monetary creation) are obliged to finance all marketable projects, I want to say that there are other judges of the &#8220;marketability&#8221; of the project that its iniataors. I agree that these other judges are difficult to define and that &#8220;marketability&#8221; include a lot of anticipations and subjectivity, but that I want to say is that it would be the only criterium, while in the present system a banker may say to an entrepreneur &#8220;you project is very interesting, i.e. marketable, but I have no money to finance it&#8221; (because I have a too small part of the global quantity of money predefined)</p>
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		By: Norbert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-8&quot;&gt;Beranrd&#039;s Reply&lt;/a&gt;.

I might not get something, but I have trouble accepting the claim that capital has &quot;nothing&quot; to do with money creation. &quot;Very little&quot; I could accept. That more capital makes the loans safer that a bank accepts, including the deposits it takes, is not an invention of the Baselers and the media. If a bank with significant capital fails and is closed, creditors will recover a higher share of their money, compared to a bank with little or no capital. The differences of recovery rates might be rather trivial  in practice at current capital ratios, but it is not zero, and it might  become quite significant at capital ratios of say 50%.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-8">Beranrd&#8217;s Reply</a>.</p>
<p>I might not get something, but I have trouble accepting the claim that capital has &#8220;nothing&#8221; to do with money creation. &#8220;Very little&#8221; I could accept. That more capital makes the loans safer that a bank accepts, including the deposits it takes, is not an invention of the Baselers and the media. If a bank with significant capital fails and is closed, creditors will recover a higher share of their money, compared to a bank with little or no capital. The differences of recovery rates might be rather trivial  in practice at current capital ratios, but it is not zero, and it might  become quite significant at capital ratios of say 50%.</p>
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		By: Norbert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-10&quot;&gt;Beranrd&#039;s Reply&lt;/a&gt;.

I take your point that inflationary consequences of failed projects are the same at any r &#062; 0 as at r = 0. My point refers to your suggestions that deposit banks &quot;are obliged to finance all of them&quot;, i.e. all marketable production. The difference in comparison to the ecurrent system would be that banks cannot reject credit demands by over-optimistic borrowers who think they will make proft of at least zero with whatever marketable production they intend. Under such a requriement, the share of failed projects and fraudulent borrowers is likely to be much higher.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-10">Beranrd&#8217;s Reply</a>.</p>
<p>I take your point that inflationary consequences of failed projects are the same at any r &gt; 0 as at r = 0. My point refers to your suggestions that deposit banks &#8220;are obliged to finance all of them&#8221;, i.e. all marketable production. The difference in comparison to the ecurrent system would be that banks cannot reject credit demands by over-optimistic borrowers who think they will make proft of at least zero with whatever marketable production they intend. Under such a requriement, the share of failed projects and fraudulent borrowers is likely to be much higher.</p>
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		By: Beranrd's Reply		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beranrd's Reply]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-7&quot;&gt;Norbert Häring&lt;/a&gt;.

In the present system, there is a selection of projects by their        rates of return. Every project that has a rate of return higher than the interest rate (r) of the market is financed. Following the standard synthesis theory, there is the link M =kY + L(r)).between the quantity of money and r, the monetary policy is supposed to fix either the good M or the good r But if the anticipation of the rate of return of a given project turns out to be wrong, the project will fail and there will be a creation of money without production and therefore some inflation. On this point there is no difference between the present system and the  one I suggest.
What I have in mind is that the present system may lead to       underemployment, although it should not following the pure        neoclassical theory. For this theory r is determined by the market        and measures the preference for the present without any link between M and r, since MV = PT. If r is high, there are few investments, but high consumption and full employment. But for Keynes r is not determined by the market but by the Central bank and does not measure the preference for the present. In these conditions there is no reason to have a rate higher than 0. The only reason to have a rate higher than 0 comes from the       quantitative theory: one must limit M to limit inflation and if there is a link between M and r, the monetary policy had to fix M and r. But Postkeynesians reject the quantitative theory, and therefore we may have r = 0. What we want is full employment, and there is no reason to reject marketable project with a rate of return 0. But as in the present system the anticipation of the rate of return may be wrong and the project fails. So there is no difference with the present system except that the rate of interest is 0 and the quantity of money is not limited. And there is a positive point which is not in the present system: creation of money is reserved for production and forbidden for any form of speculation, The speculation itself is not forbidden, it may be regulated, but financed only with money already created.
I thank you very much for your comments and would be very pleased to receive replies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-7">Norbert Häring</a>.</p>
<p>In the present system, there is a selection of projects by their        rates of return. Every project that has a rate of return higher than the interest rate (r) of the market is financed. Following the standard synthesis theory, there is the link M =kY + L(r)).between the quantity of money and r, the monetary policy is supposed to fix either the good M or the good r But if the anticipation of the rate of return of a given project turns out to be wrong, the project will fail and there will be a creation of money without production and therefore some inflation. On this point there is no difference between the present system and the  one I suggest.<br />
What I have in mind is that the present system may lead to       underemployment, although it should not following the pure        neoclassical theory. For this theory r is determined by the market        and measures the preference for the present without any link between M and r, since MV = PT. If r is high, there are few investments, but high consumption and full employment. But for Keynes r is not determined by the market but by the Central bank and does not measure the preference for the present. In these conditions there is no reason to have a rate higher than 0. The only reason to have a rate higher than 0 comes from the       quantitative theory: one must limit M to limit inflation and if there is a link between M and r, the monetary policy had to fix M and r. But Postkeynesians reject the quantitative theory, and therefore we may have r = 0. What we want is full employment, and there is no reason to reject marketable project with a rate of return 0. But as in the present system the anticipation of the rate of return may be wrong and the project fails. So there is no difference with the present system except that the rate of interest is 0 and the quantity of money is not limited. And there is a positive point which is not in the present system: creation of money is reserved for production and forbidden for any form of speculation, The speculation itself is not forbidden, it may be regulated, but financed only with money already created.<br />
I thank you very much for your comments and would be very pleased to receive replies.</p>
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		By: Beranrd's Reply		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beranrd's Reply]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-6&quot;&gt;Norbert Häring&lt;/a&gt;.

I have some difficulties to understand your second to the last paragraph You mean that a bank buys an asset with its own money i e. its  capital. I do not know what you mean by &#8220;its own money&#8221;, because by definition the money issued by a given bank is the property of some one else (by definition the money issued by the bank A is a claim on the bank A, and the bank A cannot have a claim on itself). The only thing that a bank can do is to debit an asset account and credit a deposit account. This  operation is money creation and has nothing to do with capital as I have shown in my first part.
But if a bank cannot own it own money, it can own the money (and some other bills) issued by other banks. This money and bills are assets, written in the assets column of the balance-sheet. If the bank owns them truly, they are financed by its equity capital written in the debts column and effectively the bank can use the  bills as collateral to lend from the central bank. It seems to me you want to speak of that money and you mean that larger will be equity capital larger will be these assets and therefore the loans from the central bank.
Nevertheless that cannot be considered as a new source of money        creation. Indeed I have shown in the third part of my paper, that,       except for the light part that comes from the interests perceived,        banks finance their equity capital through the conversion of      shareholder&#039;s deposits and everything boils down to the  elementary creation of money as studied in my first part.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-6">Norbert Häring</a>.</p>
<p>I have some difficulties to understand your second to the last paragraph You mean that a bank buys an asset with its own money i e. its  capital. I do not know what you mean by &ldquo;its own money&rdquo;, because by definition the money issued by a given bank is the property of some one else (by definition the money issued by the bank A is a claim on the bank A, and the bank A cannot have a claim on itself). The only thing that a bank can do is to debit an asset account and credit a deposit account. This  operation is money creation and has nothing to do with capital as I have shown in my first part.<br />
But if a bank cannot own it own money, it can own the money (and some other bills) issued by other banks. This money and bills are assets, written in the assets column of the balance-sheet. If the bank owns them truly, they are financed by its equity capital written in the debts column and effectively the bank can use the  bills as collateral to lend from the central bank. It seems to me you want to speak of that money and you mean that larger will be equity capital larger will be these assets and therefore the loans from the central bank.<br />
Nevertheless that cannot be considered as a new source of money        creation. Indeed I have shown in the third part of my paper, that,       except for the light part that comes from the interests perceived,        banks finance their equity capital through the conversion of      shareholder&#8217;s deposits and everything boils down to the  elementary creation of money as studied in my first part.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beranrd's Reply]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2012 16:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-6&quot;&gt;Norbert Häring&lt;/a&gt;.

In the first section of my paper I remind that bank capital has       nothing to do with money creation. You agree on this point but in
 your first comment you add that trust in banks increases with their        capital, and that trust attracts deposits and therefore increases        money creation.

But the fact that  an increase of bank capital entails an increase of  trust comes from the  opinion that strengthening bank capital is good, this opinion has become common since it has been invented by the Basel agreements and spread by the media. If the media spread the reverse opinion, the        strengthening of bank capital would entail a decrease of trust.

All of that is matter of opinion and one cannot rely on opinions.

But in the second part of my paper I have objectively shown that       strengthening of bank capital is bad, because long funding for banks weakens the financial situation of non-banks, which is exactly the reverse of the financial situation of the banks.Therefore strengthening of bank capital may initially increase trust, but eventually it will weaken  non-banks and    therefore decrease trust.

You may compare with austerity. Maybe it will initially increase the trust of the creditors in the debtors, but it will eventually weaken the debtors and destroy trust.
Bernard Vallageas]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://rfconference2012.weaconferences.net/papers/basel-iii-and-the-strengthening-of-capital-requirement-the-obstinacy-in-mistake-or-why-it-will-happen-again/#comment-6">Norbert Häring</a>.</p>
<p>In the first section of my paper I remind that bank capital has       nothing to do with money creation. You agree on this point but in<br />
 your first comment you add that trust in banks increases with their        capital, and that trust attracts deposits and therefore increases        money creation.</p>
<p>But the fact that  an increase of bank capital entails an increase of  trust comes from the  opinion that strengthening bank capital is good, this opinion has become common since it has been invented by the Basel agreements and spread by the media. If the media spread the reverse opinion, the        strengthening of bank capital would entail a decrease of trust.</p>
<p>All of that is matter of opinion and one cannot rely on opinions.</p>
<p>But in the second part of my paper I have objectively shown that       strengthening of bank capital is bad, because long funding for banks weakens the financial situation of non-banks, which is exactly the reverse of the financial situation of the banks.Therefore strengthening of bank capital may initially increase trust, but eventually it will weaken  non-banks and    therefore decrease trust.</p>
<p>You may compare with austerity. Maybe it will initially increase the trust of the creditors in the debtors, but it will eventually weaken the debtors and destroy trust.<br />
Bernard Vallageas</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norbert Häring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the following quote from the conclusions of the paper I have a further question:
&quot;Further the monetary circuit theory (Vallageas 2011, chapter 6) shows that monetary creation is at least equal to the flow of incomes paid for the production of all goods and services, either for consumption or investment purposes. In order to prevent money creation for speculative purposes, we suggest that deposit banks finance only those incomes and that they be obliged to finance all of them, the only condition being that the production be marketable....and following a suggestion of the Kansas City
School (Forstater and Mosler 2004), bank interest would be zero, since it would not be necessary to limit production to a predetermined quantity of money, thereby eliminating the projects whose profitability would be less than the rate of interest.&quot;

If banks are obliged to fund all investment projects at a zero interest rate, some of these will fail. Income produced by these projects and funded by the loans will circulate, while the goods producing capacity that was intended, will not come to pass, meaning that more income will chase fewer good, leading to hihger prices. Is this correct, and will thus the percentage of investment failure be a major factor determining the rate of inflation? The banks will make losses, correct?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the following quote from the conclusions of the paper I have a further question:<br />
&#8220;Further the monetary circuit theory (Vallageas 2011, chapter 6) shows that monetary creation is at least equal to the flow of incomes paid for the production of all goods and services, either for consumption or investment purposes. In order to prevent money creation for speculative purposes, we suggest that deposit banks finance only those incomes and that they be obliged to finance all of them, the only condition being that the production be marketable&#8230;.and following a suggestion of the Kansas City<br />
School (Forstater and Mosler 2004), bank interest would be zero, since it would not be necessary to limit production to a predetermined quantity of money, thereby eliminating the projects whose profitability would be less than the rate of interest.&#8221;</p>
<p>If banks are obliged to fund all investment projects at a zero interest rate, some of these will fail. Income produced by these projects and funded by the loans will circulate, while the goods producing capacity that was intended, will not come to pass, meaning that more income will chase fewer good, leading to hihger prices. Is this correct, and will thus the percentage of investment failure be a major factor determining the rate of inflation? The banks will make losses, correct?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find this paper very illuminating and thought provoking. I suspect, however, that some of the claims regarding the irrelevance of capital are stronger than is warranted. The author states that under a metallic system.
&quot;If more creditors want to withdraw their deposit, the bank will fail. So the ratio that matters is k, the credit or deposit multiplier. The bank&#039;s capital does not appear in this ratio. Nevertheless the bank balance sheet includes an item called capital, which measures the contribution of the bank&#039;s owners. With this contribution, the bank has bought some tangible assets (say, a shop and a vault to keep gold or the notes). These tangible assets may be seized when the bank fails, but their value compared to that of their deposits is low and no classical theory of monetary creation has considered it: there is no place for a capital ratio in the anti-bullionist or Banking School literature and neither is to be found in the theory of monetary creation by the deposit banks, which developed during the inter-war period.&quot;
However, in order to earn the trust that is necessary for a bank to take deposits and make loans that are a multiple of these deposits in a metallic system, the bank will need to have a good amount of capital, which goes beyond financing shop and vault. If it lends out some of its own gold, there will be more trust and more withdrawals can be payed out, without the bank failing.

The same in a fiat system. The author states: 
&quot;In both systems, the ratio that matters is a link between the reserves (in green) and the money created, therefore the item “capital” (in red) of the balance sheet does not appear. In both systems, the reserves do not belong to the banks but are borrowed either from a depositor (a depositor of gold in the gold regime and as a result of a State&#039;s supplier or employee depositing central bank money in the modern system) or from the central bank in the modern system.

Hence, despite the uselessness of capital for money creation and for the security of banks deposits, the Basel committee wants to strengthen capital requirements in implementing Basel III.&quot;

However, a bank can and will buy some assets with its own money (capital) and use these assets as collateral to obtain central bank loans. To the extenit does that, capital is involved in the multiplier. These assets can be seized if the bank fails and will mitigate the loss of creditors. this is arguably the reason why credit rating agencies and investors tend to demand a higher  bank capital to assets ratio in bad times.

The main argument will probably still hold, since these own assets financed by capital  will emprically be rather small in relation to those financed by debt. However, if the capital ratio demanded by Basel III were to go up to very high values (e.g. 70%), it seems quite clear that this would impact the money creation process and the riskiness of banks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this paper very illuminating and thought provoking. I suspect, however, that some of the claims regarding the irrelevance of capital are stronger than is warranted. The author states that under a metallic system.<br />
&#8220;If more creditors want to withdraw their deposit, the bank will fail. So the ratio that matters is k, the credit or deposit multiplier. The bank&#8217;s capital does not appear in this ratio. Nevertheless the bank balance sheet includes an item called capital, which measures the contribution of the bank&#8217;s owners. With this contribution, the bank has bought some tangible assets (say, a shop and a vault to keep gold or the notes). These tangible assets may be seized when the bank fails, but their value compared to that of their deposits is low and no classical theory of monetary creation has considered it: there is no place for a capital ratio in the anti-bullionist or Banking School literature and neither is to be found in the theory of monetary creation by the deposit banks, which developed during the inter-war period.&#8221;<br />
However, in order to earn the trust that is necessary for a bank to take deposits and make loans that are a multiple of these deposits in a metallic system, the bank will need to have a good amount of capital, which goes beyond financing shop and vault. If it lends out some of its own gold, there will be more trust and more withdrawals can be payed out, without the bank failing.</p>
<p>The same in a fiat system. The author states:<br />
&#8220;In both systems, the ratio that matters is a link between the reserves (in green) and the money created, therefore the item “capital” (in red) of the balance sheet does not appear. In both systems, the reserves do not belong to the banks but are borrowed either from a depositor (a depositor of gold in the gold regime and as a result of a State&#8217;s supplier or employee depositing central bank money in the modern system) or from the central bank in the modern system.</p>
<p>Hence, despite the uselessness of capital for money creation and for the security of banks deposits, the Basel committee wants to strengthen capital requirements in implementing Basel III.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, a bank can and will buy some assets with its own money (capital) and use these assets as collateral to obtain central bank loans. To the extenit does that, capital is involved in the multiplier. These assets can be seized if the bank fails and will mitigate the loss of creditors. this is arguably the reason why credit rating agencies and investors tend to demand a higher  bank capital to assets ratio in bad times.</p>
<p>The main argument will probably still hold, since these own assets financed by capital  will emprically be rather small in relation to those financed by debt. However, if the capital ratio demanded by Basel III were to go up to very high values (e.g. 70%), it seems quite clear that this would impact the money creation process and the riskiness of banks.</p>
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